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Dans le cas de ce rêve, ce qui\na été laissé par Cobb.",{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":606,"children":607},{},[608,614],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":609,"children":611},{"href":610},"#c8922153",[612],{"type":32,"value":613},"7.",{"type":32,"value":615},"\nLe lundi 19 juillet 2010, 18:50      par Knorc",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":617,"children":618},{},[619,629],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":620,"children":621},{},[622,624,627],{"type":32,"value":623},"Thomas > Tant mieux ! ",{"type":27,"tag":35,"props":625,"children":626},{"src":495,"alt":496},[],{"type":32,"value":628}," Tu reviendras me donner ton avis après !",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":630,"children":631},{},[632,634,637,639,642,644,647],{"type":32,"value":633},"Galathys > Quand je dis qu'elle ne vacille pas, je veux dire qu'elle\ntourne comme si elle était fixée sur un axe il me semble.",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":635,"children":636},{},[],{"type":32,"value":638},"\nJe suis d'accord que cette fin est excellente (même si c'est un peu frustrant !\n).",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":640,"children":641},{},[],{"type":32,"value":643},"\nPar contre je n'avais pas bien compris ce concept de limbes...",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":645,"children":646},{},[],{"type":32,"value":648},"\nEn tout cas j'ai bien l'intention d'y retourner lors de la sortie nationale\nhistoire de voir attentivement cette toupie à la fin, et de tenter de\ncomprendre un peu mieux ce petit bijou de film !!",{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":650,"children":651},{},[652,658],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":653,"children":655},{"href":654},"#c8922342",[656],{"type":32,"value":657},"8.",{"type":32,"value":659},"\nLe mardi 20 juillet 2010, 01:42      par christophe",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":661,"children":662},{},[663],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":664,"children":665},{},[666],{"type":32,"value":667},"J'ai vu le film en anglais et je me demandais qu'est ce qu'il tente de\nmettre comme souvenir dans la tete du mec.. j'ai rien compris quand il ouvre le\ncoffre et qu'il voit son pere dans un lit... Help !!!",{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":669,"children":670},{},[671,677],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":672,"children":674},{"href":673},"#c8922548",[675],{"type":32,"value":676},"9.",{"type":32,"value":678},"\nLe mardi 20 juillet 2010, 07:30      par aldanjah",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":680,"children":681},{},[682,705],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":683,"children":684},{},[685,687,690,693,695,698,700,703],{"type":32,"value":686},"la VO c'est bien, mais sur les scénarios bien complexes comme celui là, la\nVOST c'est bien aussi ",{"type":27,"tag":35,"props":688,"children":689},{"src":495,"alt":496},[],{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":691,"children":692},{},[],{"type":32,"value":694},"\n- pour Saïto, ça parait \"normal\" (relativement) que si il meurt dans le rêve de\nniveau 1, il meurt aussi dans les rêves de niveau 2 et 3.",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":696,"children":697},{},[],{"type":32,"value":699},"\n- pour la toupis, elle vacille un peu à la fin. sans tomber pour autant.",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":701,"children":702},{},[],{"type":32,"value":704},"\n- Chaque rêve est hosté par un membre de la team de Cobb, ceux-ci sont\nd'ailleurs censés être conformes aux plans de l'architecte.",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":706,"children":707},{},[708],{"type":32,"value":709},"tu es sur qu'on a vu le même film ? :p",{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":711,"children":712},{},[713,719],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":714,"children":716},{"href":715},"#c8924015",[717],{"type":32,"value":718},"10.",{"type":32,"value":720},"\nLe mercredi 21 juillet 2010, 21:10      par Bobobiwan",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":722,"children":723},{},[724,739],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":725,"children":726},{},[727,729,732,734,737],{"type":32,"value":728},"Oui, Aldanjah a tout résumé ^^",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":730,"children":731},{},[],{"type":32,"value":733},"\nLa toupie vacille clairement, elle peut donc tomber après le cut de fin du\nfilm, d'où le débat. Pour moi, elle tombe de manière évidente (tu l'as lu sur\nmon blog) mais la seconde hypothèse, celle où elle ne tombe pas, ferait donc\nque Saito -vieux- a tiré sur Cobb et l'a fait s'enfoncer dans sa fantaisie la\nplus improbable : retrouver ses enfants. Mais je n'achète pas cette théorie, à\ncause d'un détail : le visage des gosses, impossible à recréer pour Cobb. A\npartir du moment où on les voit, c'est le monde réel.",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":735,"children":736},{},[],{"type":32,"value":738},"\nQuant à la théorie qui veut que tout le film ne soit qu'un rêve, je m'y suis\naccroché pas mal pendant le visionnage du film, mais elle est impossible car\ncertaines séquences sont bel et bien ancrées dans le monde réel : cf celle où\nCobb fait tourner, et tomber, sa toupie pour s'assurer que c'est bien la\nréalité...",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":740,"children":741},{},[742,744],{"type":32,"value":743},"enfin par rapport aux \"faux-raccorts\" que tu as pu voir : ils sont voulus !\nIl s'agit d'un montage bien particulier où chaque scène démarre sans nous\nexpliquer d'où viennent les personnages, de façon abrupte, en fait... comme\ndans un rêve. ",{"type":27,"tag":35,"props":745,"children":746},{"src":495,"alt":496},[],{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":748,"children":749},{},[750,756],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":751,"children":753},{"href":752},"#c8924466",[754],{"type":32,"value":755},"11.",{"type":32,"value":757},"\nLe jeudi 22 juillet 2010, 09:18      par Actu Sexualité",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":759,"children":760},{},[761,766],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":762,"children":763},{},[764],{"type":32,"value":765},"Aldanjah à répondu avant moi, rien à ajouter... On ne meurt pas dans la\nréalité mais le cerveau peut-être totalement en rade du fait que tu passe plus\nde 50ans dans les limbes qui sont en faite ton subconscient, tout ce dont tu ne\npense pas consciemment... Ca peut-être super dangereux... Donc après si tu\nreviens des limbes vers la réalité tu retourne dans un corps de jeune et risque\nde choc...",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":767,"children":768},{},[769],{"type":32,"value":770},"Bobobiwan > Il se peut qu'il puisse toujours reconnaitre le visage de ses\nenfants, il ne dit pas le contraire seulement les visions précédentes dans le\nrêve sont des souvenirs et dans ceux-ci il ne voit pas leur visage... Pourtant\nquand il se retrouve dans les limbes il aurait \"peut-être\" pu voir leur visage\nquand sa femme les appels, mais il refuse de les regarder pour ne pas confondre\nréalité et rêve...",{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":772,"children":773},{},[774,780],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":775,"children":777},{"href":776},"#c8924784",[778],{"type":32,"value":779},"12.",{"type":32,"value":781},"\nLe jeudi 22 juillet 2010, 16:04      par Phil Siné",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":783,"children":784},{},[785],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":786,"children":787},{},[788,790,793,795],{"type":32,"value":789},"bon, tu avais bcp d'attente pour ce film et visiblement tu n'es pas déçu,\ndonc c'est cool... sinon en effet, la présence de marion cottillard dans un\nfilm est fatalement un défaut... mais pourquoi les réalisateurs la prennent\n?",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":791,"children":792},{},[],{"type":32,"value":794},"\net j'ai rien compris à toutes tes questions sur le film, mais je n'ai pas\nencore vu le film, ce qui explique peut-etre cela... en tout cas j'ai bien\nenvie d'y aller ! (mais j'ai un retard monstre en terme de nouveaux films !\n",{"type":27,"tag":35,"props":796,"children":797},{"src":495,"alt":496},[],{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":799,"children":800},{},[801,807],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":802,"children":804},{"href":803},"#c8926901",[805],{"type":32,"value":806},"13.",{"type":32,"value":808},"\nLe dimanche 25 juillet 2010, 17:54      par Phil Siné",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":810,"children":811},{},[812],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":813,"children":814},{},[815,817],{"type":32,"value":816},"ma petite critique et mes petites théories sur le film :  ",{"type":27,"tag":35,"props":818,"children":819},{"src":37,"alt":38},[],{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":821,"children":822},{},[823,829],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":824,"children":826},{"href":825},"#c8926956",[827],{"type":32,"value":828},"14.",{"type":32,"value":830},"\nLe dimanche 25 juillet 2010, 21:22      par CroCnique",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":832,"children":833},{},[834],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":835,"children":836},{},[837],{"type":32,"value":838},"Vous confirmez bien ma théorie sur ce film :",{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":840,"children":841},{},[842,848],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":843,"children":845},{"href":844},"#c8927301",[846],{"type":32,"value":847},"15.",{"type":32,"value":849},"\nLe lundi 26 juillet 2010, 09:12      par Phil Siné",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":851,"children":852},{},[853],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":854,"children":855},{},[856,858,861,864],{"type":32,"value":857},"@CroCnique (je n'arrive pas à laisser de commentaires sur votre blog) : je\nne suis pas trop d'accord avec votre point de vue (sauf l'idée d'aller dans les\nsalles d'art et essai bien sûr... mais je préfères celles qui sont propres,\nperso ",{"type":27,"tag":35,"props":859,"children":860},{"src":37,"alt":38},[],{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":862,"children":863},{},[],{"type":32,"value":865},"\nj'ai pour ma part trouvé le film parfaitement limpide et bien construit... si\nles gens n'arrivent pas à suivre, c'est juste qu'ils sont un peu neuneu, non ?\n(certes, l'histoire est complexe, mais nolan parvient à la raconter avec\nbeaucoup de clarté je trouve...)",{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":867,"children":868},{},[869,875],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":870,"children":872},{"href":871},"#c8929712",[873],{"type":32,"value":874},"16.",{"type":32,"value":876},"\nLe jeudi 29 juillet 2010, 13:44      par HugoRayes",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":878,"children":879},{},[880],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":881,"children":882},{},[883],{"type":32,"value":884},"Magnifique film et je ne le trouve pas si compliqué. Suffit de suivre...",{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":886,"children":887},{},[888,894],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":889,"children":891},{"href":890},"#c8929809",[892],{"type":32,"value":893},"17.",{"type":32,"value":895},"\nLe jeudi 29 juillet 2010, 17:44      par Thomas",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":897,"children":898},{},[899,909,917,922,932,937,942,947,952,957,965,970],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":900,"children":901},{},[902,904,907],{"type":32,"value":903},"Je sors de la salle de cinéma et je viens comme promis donner mon feedback\npar ici ",{"type":27,"tag":35,"props":905,"children":906},{"src":37,"alt":569},[],{"type":32,"value":908}," Tout d'abord, je suis obligé de saluer l'excellence performance des\nacteurs et du réalisateur, qui parvient vraiment à nous donner l'impression que\nson film est un rêve car on ne voit pas passer les 2h30!",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":910,"children":911},{},[912,914],{"type":32,"value":913},"Ensuite, après avoir lu la partie explication, voici ce que je peux apporter\nau débat ",{"type":27,"tag":35,"props":915,"children":916},{"src":37,"alt":569},[],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":918,"children":919},{},[920],{"type":32,"value":921},"1) Pour moi, Saito est bel et bien mort (même si le doute est là). La\nlogique voudrait qu'il soit bien mort, puisqu'on le retrouve très vieux au\nniveau 3, où la femme de Cobb, qui s'est donnée la mort dans la réalité, vit\ntoujours (ce qui serait donc cohérent). Et rappelons aussi que Fisher, qui se\nfait descendre par la femme de Cobb au niveau 2, se trouve également au niveau\n3 avec Cobb et la jeune architecte. Pour remonter au niveau 2, la jeune\narchitecte ET Fisher sautent dans le vide (en même temps que la deuxième\n\"décharge\"). Cobb reste sur place pour retrouver Saito.",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":923,"children":924},{},[925,927,930],{"type":32,"value":926},"Pour comprendre la fin du film, je pense qu'il faut avoir compris le début\ndu film. Le problème, c'est que le début du film est flou dans ma mémoire ",{"type":27,"tag":35,"props":928,"children":929},{"src":37,"alt":569},[],{"type":32,"value":931},"\nJe me souviens qu'on y voit Saïto, la femme de Cobb (qui fait foirer un plan)\net l'un des associés de Cobb. Après, que diable vient donc faire cette scène\ndans le film ? Je pense qu'elle a un sens.",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":933,"children":934},{},[935],{"type":32,"value":936},"Il y a une autre interrogation pour moi qui me met dans le doute. À un\nmoment, Cobb rencontre son père qui l'invite à REVENIR DANS LA REALITE... ce\nqui soutient la thèse que tout viendrait du père de Cobb. Après, la toupie qui\ntombe pendant le film vient contredire cette hypothèse.",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":938,"children":939},{},[940],{"type":32,"value":941},"2) Je pense que pour comprendre le film, il est essentiel de comprendre que\nle groupe mené par Cobb s'enfonce dans plusieurs niveaux de rêves et que pour\nchaque niveau, il faut une \"décharge\" pour revenir à la réalité. À la fin du\nfilm, il faut donc 2 décharges pour remonter du niveau 3 au niveau 2, puis du\nniveau 2 au niveau 1, où ils sont finalement réveillés par le timer (le vol de\nl'avion dure 10 heures).",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":943,"children":944},{},[945],{"type":32,"value":946},"3) Pour la fin du film... je pense que la toupie tombe. J'ai bien fait\nattention et d'après moi, le film se coupe quand la toupie tombe. Ensuite,\ncette fin est une belle ouverture pour la réflexion...",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":948,"children":949},{},[950],{"type":32,"value":951},"Quoiqu'on vive, où qu'on vive. Ce qui importe, c'est comment on vit la\nréalité qu'on s'est donné de son présent. Au fond, que Cobb soit en rêve ou non\nn'a pas tellement d'importance. C'est l'idée qu'il donne à sa réalité qui créé\nla réalité de Cobb. Le film le montre bien avec sa femme, qui était persuadé\nque la réalité était fausse (même dans le monde réel).",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":953,"children":954},{},[955],{"type":32,"value":956},"Tout comme Matrix, je pense qu'il y a des incohérences à la logique. Car\nsinon comment expliquer ce que Cobb dit à propos de ses enfants : ils auraient\neu des enfants dans leur rêve mais ceux-ci seraient bien réels dans la réalité\nalors que le temps se déroule beaucoup plus lentement ?",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":958,"children":959},{},[960,962],{"type":32,"value":961},"Dès que le cinéma touche à l'espace temps, les questions fusent (et surtout\nl'incompréhension). Peut-être est-ce tout simplement parce que c'est quelque\nchose qui nous échappe ",{"type":27,"tag":35,"props":963,"children":964},{"src":37,"alt":569},[],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":966,"children":967},{},[968],{"type":32,"value":969},"Sur ce, je me réjouis de lire les commentaires suivants. Bravo à celui qui\narrive à expliquer tout cela de manière cohérente. OK, facile de comprendre le\nfilm, mais de lui poser une logique, c'est autre chose à mon sens.",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":971,"children":972},{},[973,975],{"type":32,"value":974},"Sur ce, je vous souhaite de beaux rêves hein ",{"type":27,"tag":35,"props":976,"children":977},{"src":37,"alt":569},[],{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":979,"children":980},{},[981,987],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":982,"children":984},{"href":983},"#c8931976",[985],{"type":32,"value":986},"18.",{"type":32,"value":988},"\nLe dimanche  1 août 2010, 19:00      par selenie",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":990,"children":991},{},[992],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":993,"children":994},{},[995],{"type":32,"value":996},"Ce film a le génie d'unir cinéma d'auteur et blockbuster dans un mixte\nparfait. Le scénario à la fois alambiqué et compréhensible est sans aucun doute\nle point fort du film tant il est palpitant. Cependant je ne puis mettre la\nnote maxi car quelques petites choses gênent un peu... Juste un petit exemple\ncomment se fait-il que Fischer ne reconnaissent pas Saïto alors que ce dernier\nest son concurrent principal ?!... Mais le film reste un must qui en met plein\nla vue, beaucoup plus facile à comprendre que ce qui a pu être dit. 16/20",{"type":27,"tag":424,"props":998,"children":999},{},[1000,1006],{"type":27,"tag":428,"props":1001,"children":1003},{"href":1002},"#c8936319",[1004],{"type":32,"value":1005},"19.",{"type":32,"value":1007},"\nLe jeudi  5 août 2010, 14:10      par Hahael",{"type":27,"tag":437,"props":1009,"children":1010},{},[1011,1016,1021,1026,1031,1036,1041,1066,1071,1081],{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":1012,"children":1013},{},[1014],{"type":32,"value":1015},"Hello à tous...",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":1017,"children":1018},{},[1019],{"type":32,"value":1020},"Ce film ne laisse personne indifférent à ce que je vois. Mais il laisse,\nj'ai l'impression, aux divagations théoriques les plus vagues. Ce que Nolan\nsouhaite avant tout dans son film.",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":1022,"children":1023},{},[1024],{"type":32,"value":1025},"Inception me fait d'ailleurs penser à Memento du même réalisateur. Son\nattrait sur la psychologie rend ses films un peu moins terre à terre que\nd'autres.",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":1027,"children":1028},{},[1029],{"type":32,"value":1030},"En ce qui concerne l'interprétation du sens du film, il faut quand même se\nbaser sur des faits réels. C'est à dire des événements qui se produisent dans\nla réalité, effective. Car sinon nous n'avons aucunes clés, ni preuves de se\nqui peut réellement se passer. Et je reste persuadé que Nolan ne s'amuserait\npas à faire un film aussi complexe pour que tout soit des le débuts un film\nrelatant un rêve. Cela serait idiot et pas sérieux vis-à-vis des\nspectateurs.",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":1032,"children":1033},{},[1034],{"type":32,"value":1035},"Quand on raconte une histoire on donne des clés, des passes, pour comprendre\noù nous sommes, se qui va, ou se passe. Sinon c'est de l'embrouille totale et\ncela n'a pas de sens, à moins de ne pas maîtriser sa narration et de prendre\nles gens pour des andouilles finis.",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":1037,"children":1038},{},[1039],{"type":32,"value":1040},"Cela étant dis, j'ai quelques questions que je me pose encore sur les scènes\nde ce film. Si je pouvais trouver une réponse auprès de vous cela serait génial\n:",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":1042,"children":1043},{},[1044,1046,1049,1051,1054,1056,1059,1061,1064],{"type":32,"value":1045},"Tout d'abord je voudrais parler de la bague de marié Coob. J'ai remarqué\nqu'elle n'était présente que quand il est dans un rêve, sauf quand on a la\nscène de son flashback (qui est dans le monde réel en principe) dans la chambre\nd'hôtel où il rejoins sa femme qui s'apprête à sauter.",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":1047,"children":1048},{},[],{"type":32,"value":1050},"\nJ'ai deux questions par rapport à cette scène",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":1052,"children":1053},{},[],{"type":32,"value":1055},"\n1- La bague de Coob ne serait pas son totem ? Et la toupie un totem de\n\"secours\" pour être certain de ne pas être dans le rêve de sa femme. Je rappel\nque la toupie est avant tout le totem de la femme de Coob et qu'il est dit que\nc'est un objet unique. Il s'en ait d'ailleurs servie pour faire une inception\nsur sa propre femme, d'où le dilemme de ses projections tout au long du\nfilm.",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":1057,"children":1058},{},[],{"type":32,"value":1060},"\n2- Lors de cette scène du balcon, Nolan nous montre que Md Coob est sur un\nbalcon face à celui de son marie. Et ces deux chambres d'hôtel ont un intérieur\nqui se ressemblent fortement. Ils sont pourtant à l'opposée. Là je ne comprends\npas trop. Il est dit que dans un rêve tout nous paraît normal et ce n'est que\nlors du réveil que l'on comprend son étrangeté. Narf.",{"type":27,"tag":28,"props":1062,"children":1063},{},[],{"type":32,"value":1065},"\nIl se peut qu'elle est vraiment bien manigancée aussi sont suicide.",{"type":27,"tag":205,"props":1067,"children":1068},{},[1069],{"type":32,"value":1070},"Pour ma part tout ce qui se passe dans le film à une logique bien millimétré\net rien n'a été laissé au hasard. 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